Property In Cuba

[dima7777]

Hi Guys,

I have bought some property in Cuaba, and now I need to recell it. would you know if anyone would be interested, or could suggest some ways to advertise this property?

Thanks for all your comments

[bridget]

where is the property and what type of property is it?

[greslogo]

I assume it is illegal but, same question.... where is it, what is it ?

Advertise an illegally purchased property that you want to sell illegaly ?

[kuzia]

why is not it possible to buy any property in Cuba legaly at the time?

[greslogo]

It is illegal to "sell" or "buy" property. A foreigner also can NEVER own property in Cuba.

That's just the way it is.

[Gunny]

Anyone that wan' to buy something......I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I would entertain and offer......... ::)

[mellisas]

we've got one in sydney that's going real cheap.
with john howard as a free gift.

[pelline]

;D
A property in Cuba??
Well as far as I know no budy owns anything in Cuba.
In Cuba is illegal to buy or sale a real estate or most of the cars.
There is only one owner in Cuba who owns everything.

[greslogo]

Well you can trade/swap properties(you do hold title) and you can build or transfer property to family; also to non family under certain conditions. You can also buy/sell pre Revolution cars.

But you, Cuban or foreigner, can't "buy" or "sell" property.

[mellisas]

so could a foreigner trade swap or hold title :-/

[Rose]

www.sepermuta.com


:D

[mellisas]

car'nt get the link to work rose :-/

[Rose]

Must be you... it works for me alright! anybody else with problems?

[greslogo]

A foreigner also can NEVER own property in Cuba

[Cubagirlee]

Hi Greslogo. You wrote that foreigners are not allowed to "buy" or "sell" properties in Cuba, but how about the locals. Can they own property? And if so, do they have legal claim by way of title or other document? If not, then who is permitted to own any properties? I have never been to Cuba so I am not familiar with the laws, real estate, etcetera. Can properties be passed down to generations ( i.e. children, spouses, etc)via quick claim deeds? Does anyone know? How do locals maintain rights to their properties? Are they leased? Thanks for any reply.

Regards to all
Cubagirlee

[greslogo]

Locals cannot buy/sell either.

Yes they can own property. A deed is provided.

A local can build, if they have land or permission, from the owner, to build on someone elses land. Outside the big cities, this is the most common method.

Property can be passed down, transferred, traded, property for property with other locals under certain conditions.

The government also builds houses/apartments but not anywhere in the quantity to meet demand. The ones, lucky enough to get one of these, get a "mortgage" and make monthly payments based on ability to pay. Eventually they own it. If they have the "cash" up front, they can pay for it all in one shot.

That's it in a nutshell.

[mellisas]

oh by the way how do you do the bold writting.
maybe l will need to shout at someone one day. :(

[greslogo]

I don't use it to shout.....

I use it to "quote" something posted earlier.

THIS IS SHOUTING.

[jackd]

I beg to differ

The normal accepted pratice to quote is to *use quotes, " blah blah blah "

Or use the quote function:

this is quote

Using bold seems to me, harsh *:-/

[mellisas]

any updates on property market in cuba....rolly eyes....

were are the smilies......:mad: don't much like this one...looks aggressive...

[saborami]

As long as Fido is in charge, nothing has changed. A foreigner can never own property in Cuba, not ever. (maybe when he dies and a new government is in...) I like what the Costa Rica Government is doing...building 10, 000 new homes for locals...Tourists/Retired people don't take precedance over the locals.The locals come first. This is what Cuba will have to do when the government changes to ensure the rich people from EU, US and Canada don't rape the land with their beach front properties pushing Cubans yet again back to their ghettos and a life of further poverty . Go Costa Rica..Go!

[matusalen]

There is a RE agent who seems to be in charge of all property dealings and transactions, he is very good, he is so good that he owns all the property in Cuba, do you get the hint???

[saborami]

yep, sure do.

[Yucca]

I have been in negotiations with Felipito to buy up Varadero for my Hotel/Night Club. Even Gordon (Cubaking) is getting in on the action.

[cubanomania]

I have been in negotiations with Felipito to buy up Varadero for my Hotel/Night Club. Even Gordon (Cubaking) is getting in on the action.

Interesting Post Yucca, actually the Cuban Varadero born, Cuban American owner of Varadero Supermarkets has stated, he can invest, rebuild, re-make, develop Varadero all by himself.

Perhaps there is your financial Partner.

Interesting thought.

[saborami]

I have been in negotiations with Felipito to buy up Varadero for my Hotel/Night Club. Even Gordon (Cubaking) is getting in on the action.


aahhhhhhhhaaaa, fat chance! Buy up Varadero? hehehehe...isin't that what Dupont did....And the salmon King? Have at her Yucca.

Steve whadya think of Gordo & Yuc buying up Varadero together?


bawwwwwwwwwwaaaaaa! That is even more funnier than the cuban citizenship thread. LOL!

[saborami]

Interesting Post Yucca, actually the Cuban Varadero born, Cuban American owner of Varadero Supermarkets has stated, he can invest, rebuild, re-make, develop Varadero all by himself.

Perhaps there is your financial Partner.

Interesting thought.

Cubanomia, you call yourself a Cuban? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Cubans would be against an American buying up Varadero for obvious reasons. Shame on you. You are more American than Cuban Cubanomia, tsk tsk tsk....I thought someone like you that has such a fiery passion for your brothers and sisters would be up in arms at the very sugesstion of a Capitalistic Pig buying up Varadero so he can make his millions on the back of poor Cubans. Just like Dupont....Wow, you really are a hypocrit....

[Yucca]

Cubanomia, you call yourself a Cuban? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Cubans would be against an American buying up Varadero for obvious reasons. Shame on you. You are more American than Cuban Cubanomia, tsk tsk tsk....I thought someone like you that has such a fiery passion for your brothers and sisters would be up in arms at the very sugesstion of a Capitalistic Pig buying up Varadero so he can make his millions on the back of poor Cubans. Just like Dupont....Wow, you really are a hypocrit....

"sugesstion of a Capitalistic Pig buying up Varadero so he can make his millions on the back of poor Cubans".

Michael Douglas said it best in the movie Wall Street. " Greed is good".

Now Sabor, I was thinking of a Hotel but since you sugested "making millions on the back of poor Cubans" now Im thinking something like....

Yucca's Havana Mustang Ranch

Has a nice ring to it.

[saborami]

"sugesstion of a Capitalistic Pig buying up Varadero so he can make his millions on the back of poor Cubans".

Michael Douglas said it best in the movie Wall Street. " Greed is good".

Now Sabor, I was thinking of a Hotel but since you sugested "making millions on the back of poor Cubans" now Im thinking something like....

Yucca's Havana Mustang Ranch

Has a nice ring to it.



Maybe you could be the main Pimp Yucca, ....like the Madam but a Pimp instead, make sure you take 80 % of the cut and I know someone like you already knows this but the younger the better...sure, that would rake you in a few million, like you say...greed is good, and anything for the higher cause heh? Why not do both, buy up Varadero and have a prostitution "ranch" ...hell think of all the toys you could buy! Maybe CubaKing can be the ringmaster...lol.

[mellisas]

Maybe CubaKing can be the ringmaster...lol. http://www.autopia.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh1.gif

amiga l think yucca is winding us up...people l know say he is a real sweetie....true..jejejejejeje

[Yucca]

Now Mel.......you stop that right now !!!

[mellisas]

Now Mel.......you stop that right now !!!

hush now ..ya just a big cuddly pussy cat...http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/3583/catgifs/anicat25.gif http://www.cubamania.com/cuba/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Yucca]

I see you've been talking with my girl Yan. Don't say a word. Im having a ball with mother Teresa here.

Keep your eyes peeled....next trip...Im going down under.

[cubanomania]

Cubanomia, you call yourself a Cuban? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Cubans would be against an American buying up Varadero for obvious reasons. Shame on you. You are more American than Cuban Cubanomia, tsk tsk tsk....I thought someone like you that has such a fiery passion for your brothers and sisters would be up in arms at the very sugesstion of a Capitalistic Pig buying up Varadero so he can make his millions on the back of poor Cubans. Just like Dupont....Wow, you really are a hypocrit....

Saborami, I favor the economic developement of Cuba.

Fidel is developing Varaderos tourist industry for rich foreigners, with foreign investments.

I want to see a predominantly Middle Class Cuba, where the average Cuban can afford those hotels in their own nation, as well as the foreign tourists.

I want to see the average Cuban be able to afford and become a foreign tourist, in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the EU nations, Japan, and other places.

As I can afford it.

And not have to rely on family remittances from relatives just to get by a little better, like under Fidel.

This will take foreing investments, and a more free market reform economy.

In the case of Cuban Americans investments, even better, they are Cuban Americans born in Cuba, born in the US, with Cuban family and relatives in Cuba.

Cuba the largest island in the West Indies, with its gentle rolling hills and plains, white sandy beaches,
and good harbors.

And the ability of Cubans in an economy not under so much government control, will make Cuba one if not the most prosperous nation of the Carribean and Latin America.

I really believe Cuba will have a strong prosperous economy for the average Cuban under a diffrent economic and political system, than under Fidel's.

Similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, and EU nations, Chile and others.

Ironically Fidel once promised to make Cuba a predominantly Middle Class social democracy nation under the 1940 Cuban Constitution, and lied about it.

[saborami]

Cubanomia, what you post about frequently, is an American model of capitalism and "democracy". You never speak about the poor, only the middle class. Under your system how do you feel about 30 million working poor Americans that can not afford to eat properly, don't have health insurance, can't put gas in their cars to go to their minimum wage jobs at 5.75 hour (which has not been raised in 10 years)...middle class, middle class...bla bla bla...you have convinced me now that you truly are more American than Cuban. You don't give a shiit about poor people do you, just as long as Fido is gone and Cubans can prosper. I think we all want that but we are not so one sided. You truly dissapoint me, many Cubans will not prosper, most will continue to live in poverty while Cubans with the connections to Miami will flourish.

PS in case you haven't noticed the "Middle Class" is becoming obselete, the world over. So maybe next time you post about your "brethen", you might want to keep that in mind and one last thing...there are more poor people in this world than rich...wishing a middle class version of America is not going to solve Cuba's problems after Fidel dies.

[cubanomania]

The Cuban people including the poor will be better economically without Fidel.

[saborami]

The Cuban people including the poor will be better economically without Fidel.

Ya think so? you haven't travelled much have ya? Oh, wait a second, riiight, you've been to Caaaanaaaada...Niagra Falls...riiiight, nice scenery and all and prosperous to boot. Get a passport, would ya.

[saborami]

Cubanomia, what you post about frequently, is an American model of capitalism and "democracy". You never speak about the poor, only the middle class. Under your system how do you feel about 30 million working poor Americans that can not afford to eat properly, don't have health insurance, can't put gas in their cars to go to their minimum wage jobs at 5.75 hour (which has not been raised in 10 years)...middle class, middle class...bla bla bla...you have convinced me now that you truly are more American than Cuban. You don't give a shiit about poor people do you, just as long as Fido is gone and Cubans can prosper. I think we all want that but we are not so one sided. You truly dissapoint me, many Cubans will not prosper, most will continue to live in poverty while Cubans with the connections to Miami will flourish.

PS in case you haven't noticed the "Middle Class" is becoming obselete, the world over. So maybe next time you post about your "brethen", you might want to keep that in mind and one last thing...there are more poor people in this world than rich...wishing a middle class version of America is not going to solve Cuba's problems after Fidel dies.


What is the "economic "difference Cubanomania, between the impoverished poor of Cuba and the impoverished poor of America? How has your system of government helped poor people in America? Answer that. betcha ya can't...

[plagb]

I want to see the average Cuban be able to afford and become a foreign tourist, in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the EU nations, Japan, and other places.

As I can afford it.

And not have to rely on family remittances from relatives just to get by a little better, like under Fidel.

Exactly what makes you think that with a "market economy" Cuba will become like the US, Canada, EU and other "first" world nations? It's more likely to become like the rest of the "third" world nations. All of these nations have "market economies" and yet most of the people that live there cannot afford to travel as you and I do, and, do depend on family remittances to get by a little better.


I really believe Cuba will have a strong prosperous economy for the average Cuban under a diffrent economic and political system, than under Fidel's.

Similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, and EU nations, Chile and others.

Chile, in the same class as Canada, USA, the EU and the like? Come on, you can't be serious!!! Chile, no matter how "good" their economy seems to be going these days, is still a "third world" nation. The country appears to be doing well but, it is not as a whole. Yes, the rich are doing extremely well (as are foreign investors), the middle class is doing relatively better, but most people still are very, very poor. You don't see this if you just visit the middle-upper class neighbourhoods of Santiago, but it is there should you choose to venture out of that cloister. It wouldn't suprise me one bit if one day Chile went the way of Argentina (the economic "miracle" of Latin America), economically speaking.

[Peter Perez]

What is the "economic "difference Cubanomania, between the impoverished poor of Cuba and the impoverished poor of America? How has your system of government helped poor people in America? Answer that. betcha ya can't...

The Difference is ,the poor in America get food stamps in cuba they get food promises,LMAO

[greslogo]

Some seem to think that Cuba is the only country that relies, to some degree, on remittances...

Just a couple of articles

http://www.livelihoods.org/hot_topics/docs/REMITPAPER.doc

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/remittances.html

As far as Cuba, there has only been one academic study done to qauntify the amount of remittances from the USA. It was done by the U of Miami a few years ago. Unfortunately I lost the link. They estimate, based on surveys, remittamces are around 300 mil to Cuba. The 1 billion often seen in articles is a number picked out of the air and most often used by anti Fidel writers since it better suits their "agenda".

[MrDiaz]

Actually a foreigner can, they can deal directly with the government and make up a deal. I actually have a friend who OWNS a restaurant on the middle of Habana (or Havana, whatever you want to call it)

[jersey]

Hi Guys,

I have bought some property in Cuaba, and now I need to recell it. would you know if anyone would be interested, or could suggest some ways to advertise this property?

Thanks f
or all your comments


Hey dima,i'm a cuban born and i think it's going to be kind of difficult for you to resell it,due to the fact that the relationship between both countries Cuba and U.S.A are not the best at all,any buyer is going to have doubts about the authenticity of the paperwork or even worse is the task to verify if such property even exist.Now is there's a change in the policy between both sides then you are going to have a better shot

[saborami]

what about building a house in Cuba for my friend's family? I've been thinking that this is something I'd like to do for her and her daughter but I won't rush in like a bull in a china shop to do it, I've been given estimates from 30-50,000....and I have no clue what the first step is. It's a three year plan............

[Rose]

Actually a foreigner can, they can deal directly with the government and make up a deal. I actually have a friend who OWNS a restaurant on the middle of Habana (or Havana, whatever you want to call it)

Any possibility to post the name of the restaurante and where it is? It sounds peculiar...

[SaguaLaGrande]

What is the "economic "difference Cubanomania, between the impoverished poor of Cuba and the impoverished poor of America? How has your system of government helped poor people in America? Answer that. betcha ya can't...

I've got one too. In America you may be starving but you have hope that things will be different someday and that atleast your kids have a chance of getting out of poverty. In Cuba, you know that nothing has change during most of your life so there is no hope for you or your children. Hope is a very powerful thing along with dignity.

[saborami]

I've got one too. In America you may be starving but you have hope that things will be different someday and that atleast your kids have a chance of getting out of poverty. In Cuba, you know that nothing has change during most of your life so there is no hope for you or your children. Hope is a very powerful thing along with dignity.


ya, righhhhht...........that's why the 9th ward, a poor black community that was crushed during Katrina has had absolutely NO HELP FROM FEMA, NOR THE GOVERNMENT, Nor the city while more affluant white neighborhoods in New Orleans has had a lot of activity a lot of re-building. If you are poor black person in America, stats show that you will die poor. THAT IS A FACT. So the poverty argument just doesn't cut it with me because it is full of holes.

Hope always floats and Cubans have it, irregardless of what you or I think we know about them.

[toysoldier]

i love when the justification to comunism is that some dumb idiots on a ****hole can´t take advantage of capitalism. i bet you my damn life that any cuban poor would gladly trade places with any american poor, and not the other way around. why´s that, go figure.

[saborami]

i love when the justification to comunism is that some dumb idiots on a ****hole can´t take advantage of capitalism. i bet you my damn life that any cuban poor would gladly trade places with any american poor, and not the other way around. why´s that, go figure.

ya think. try telling that to 3, 400 homeless people sleeping out on the streets in - 3 temperatures and hundreds of families living in campgrounds...that's the reality of the city I live in, a few weeks ago a homeless man was set on fire....while he slept....happens all the time all over North America and NO, my Cuban friends would not want to change places with the poorest of poor in my city. That's not a justification for communism it's a FACT. We have talked at length about it .

Not every Cuban wants to leave Cuba and seek a "better life". Who is anyone to judge that?

[ALUCARD]

WELL WHY DONT U GO TO LIVE IN CUBA, OR STOP TALKING LIKE U KNOW ABOUT CUBA , YOU HAVENT LIVE THERE U DONT KNOW THE LIFESTYLE THERE OR THE PROBLEMS PEOPLE NEED TO CONFRONT EACH DAY, YOU SEEM A LOT CONCERN ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE AND ALL THAT WHY DONT YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME TO "MADRE TERESA DE CALCUTA"OR START A CUBAN FUND FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE YOU TALK TOO MUCH BUT NO ACT. DONATE AND HELP THEM IF U LIKE, AND BELEIVE ME HOMELESS PEOPLE IN US LIKE TO BE HOMELESS BECAUSE U HAVE MILLION OF OPORTUNITIES IN AMERICA THAT U DONT HAVE IN CUBA, HOMELESS HAVE SHELTERS HERE, WELFARE, FOODSTAMPS, MEDICAID.... WHAT U HAVE IN CUBA ...NOTHING, NO PROPERTY, NO ENTERTAINMENT NOTHING, AND STILL THEY LIVE THEIR LIVE HAPPY WITH THE DREAM THAT SOMEDAY THEY'LL HAVE DEMOCRACY AND THE SAME OPORTUNITIES AS EVERYONE ELSE, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT U THINK TWICE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT CUBANS AND HOW THEY LIVE OR WHAT THEY WANT OR NOT.... TRADE YOUR LIFE HERE IN US FOR ANYONE LIVING IN CUBA AND LIVE THE REALITY

[saborami]

WELL WHY DONT U GO TO LIVE IN CUBA, OR STOP TALKING LIKE U KNOW ABOUT CUBA , YOU HAVENT LIVE THERE U DONT KNOW THE LIFESTYLE THERE OR THE PROBLEMS PEOPLE NEED TO CONFRONT EACH DAY, YOU SEEM A LOT CONCERN ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE AND ALL THAT WHY DONT YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME TO "MADRE TERESA DE CALCUTA"OR START A CUBAN FUND FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE YOU TALK TOO MUCH BUT NO ACT. DONATE AND HELP THEM IF U LIKE, AND BELEIVE ME HOMELESS PEOPLE IN US LIKE TO BE HOMELESS BECAUSE U HAVE MILLION OF OPORTUNITIES IN AMERICA THAT U DONT HAVE IN CUBA, HOMELESS HAVE SHELTERS HERE, WELFARE, FOODSTAMPS, MEDICAID.... WHAT U HAVE IN CUBA ...NOTHING, NO PROPERTY, NO ENTERTAINMENT NOTHING, AND STILL THEY LIVE THEIR LIVE HAPPY WITH THE DREAM THAT SOMEDAY THEY'LL HAVE DEMOCRACY AND THE SAME OPORTUNITIES AS EVERYONE ELSE, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT U THINK TWICE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT CUBANS AND HOW THEY LIVE OR WHAT THEY WANT OR NOT.... TRADE YOUR LIFE HERE IN US FOR ANYONE LIVING IN CUBA AND LIVE THE REALITY

must you always scream?I see your hate thread was vaporized. perhaps you should change your tone before you are as well. If you knew anthing about me instead of coming on here and spewing out untruths you'd know that I have done a lot in my limited capability, In my limited ability I have done more than the average person and that's not to shun anyone but don't profess to tell me that I should get my head out of my ass and donate to Cuba when I alraedy do and will continue to do so as long as these legs of mine can walk and as long as these lungs of mine can breath. And as far as my post above, I have had that conversation and no my friends in Cuba would rather live their own poor lives then that of a destitute homeless person, remeber they got the footage from katrina and were like the world over horrified, and btw, you moron, a homeless person in the US doesn't qualify for medicare ot welfare because he/she has NFA. that's no fixed address, got that. Homeless people any where in the world suffer tremendously in ways that you nor I can even imagine, so don't go try and make the plight of the homeless less than what it is because you live in the land of opportunity. My ass. If the US or Canada is the land of opportuntiy why are their millions of homeless people? Maybe at one time the US was the land of opprtunity, most certainly in Pepins younger years but now? You have to be kidding me, the land of opportunity where a health system discriminates because you are poor and black. Don't believe me, check the stats out...HMO. Start there and then google the Post, the Times/....medicare and the poor. Then google medicare poor african american...That should keep you in the bathroom for the next year and hopefully for the rest of us, keep you busy enough so we don't have to endure your hateful, assuming, vulgar diatrabes any longer! Unbelievable, you are completely unbelievable. You lost all credibilty when you came on here hating on everyone and posting Pink in a Cuban Beat music thread and then madonna, then Christina and then Ace of Bace and can't forget about Metellica all the while saying it was for your "friends" that live in Cuba. How stupid do you think we are. Spammer. And you purport to lecture us about the truth of Cuba. Unbelievable....glad you have been vaporized. Piracy and hate language got you banned, BUH BYE.

[Pepin]

I just got up........what I miss??????

[apxyl]

I just got up........what I miss??????

:)

apyxl

[saborami]

I just got up........what I miss??????

Pepin, Did you fall off your bar stool again and forgot to get back up?

[saborami]

Pepin, Did you fall off your bar stool again and forgot to get back up?

Oh Pepin....Oh Pepin.....when are you going to re-surface? When oh when will you appear again? :)

[Pepin]

I'm right here baby. Is this dumb fu*%k bothering you. Should I contact Guido??

I was just in Varadero and the "ranch" solving a few problems. Thank God my assistant Melissas is on the ball. It seams Nellie did that Salmon Slapping routine again to the same Canadian. This time I'm afraid he required surgery.

[mellisas]

jeez...the thing is boss..salmon is hard to come by in cuba...

but gord is so addicted to fish slapping...he got nellie to go down the markets...she came back with a marlin...only took 1 slap...multiple factures...

now he is laying on the beach in front of the las americas hotel yelling ..more more more...ya have to get down here pepin and sort him out...http://www.cubamania.com/cuba/images/icons/icon9.gif

[saborami]

I'm right here baby. Is this dumb fu*%k bothering you. Should I contact Guido??

I was just in Varadero and the "ranch" solving a few problems. Thank God my assistant Melissas is on the ball. It seams Nellie did that Salmon Slapping routine again to the same Canadian. This time I'm afraid he required surgery.

yes, I think it's time Big daddy called in the "goon" patrol.

[mellisas]

why canadians s.u.c.k.s???? ask saborami or apxyl or just watch South Park The Movie hehehe F.u.c.k CANADA! canadians are the most racist son of a bittches alive, for example saborami, hates people who speaks spanish , but her screen name is in spanish uhmmm irony, and apxyl is frustrated cause no body buys her music, so she gets off spaming other people forum with his RIAA bull****tt hahahah my asssssssssss

it's is not your culture ..it's your behaviour thats the issue ..innit?

[saborami]

bump.

[Pepin]

Why is this idiot so upset? Was this one of the folks stealing music?

Ay...Vey

[saborami]

bump.

[Prospero]

hahahah i love to make u guys go crazy im having so much fun hahahahaahYeah, right.