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cowie
05-18-2007, 07:15 PM
Hi all,I've just returned from a week staying at the Melia Cayo coco,this was my first trip to Cuba and am still coming to terms with what a special place and people i have just been to and met.Anyway on with the fishing report,after picking some of you guys brains as to what gear to take,i think i got it more or less right in the end,a 9ft ugly stick spinning rod with a okuma baitrunner reel attached loaded with 300yds of 30lb fireline braid,7 weight fly rod and 250yds of backing,and a 9ft uptiding rod with Abu 7000(though i never used this outfit).If was to do it again tomorrow i would take a real light spinning outfit for catching the livebait.
Day 1.
An early start-me and missus on beach in pitch black at 5.00 a.m.that excited at being there and wanting to see our first amazing sunrise,as light grew we headed to the rocks next to the Sol hotel,after trying various plugs and poppers and seeing some huge fish cruising around i was finally smashed by something that just stripped line for fun,eventually cutting me off on the reef,anyhow that was that as we had guest reception etc to attend.Felt a little frustrated at how hard the fishing seemed(was expecting stuff throwing itself onto my lures - DOH!)
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Day 2.
We decided to explore the hotel grounds and found the little jetty at the front of the hotel where you rent scooters,a canadian guy was fishing with the rental guy(Roberto),they were catching small cubera and rigging them for livebait,after seeing my 1st cuda smash and grab i flew back to room and 2 peso's later returned with a bag of shrimp from Charles at the beach grill,Roberto showed me how to set up for catching the bait fish(basic freelining a hook with a tiny piece of shrimp on right under rod tip)didn't have the heart to tell him i knew that lol,anyhow replacing with livebait on 20lb wire trace and single hook had cpl of cuda strikes when he suggested a small fillet of fish cast out then inched along the bottom of the lagoon(all 2ft deep)2 fish came into view,head on looking like cuda's,a stop then inch retrieve and had a take,this fish screamed off,after several 50 -60 yd runs i got a bonefish of around 5lb's on the jetty,everyone going cock-a-hoop as this was bigger than they had seen for long time,couldn't believe i had my 1st bone,this was then followed by a cpl of small cuda which were great fun on the lightish gear.
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Day 3.
We went on the Catamaran trip which took us down to Cayo Romano and a fantastic beach,i had taken my 2 spinning set ups for me and one of the guys we met, had a chance of a massive cuda which was stalking the beach,then on return the captain told us we could troll if we wanted to,we put out big poppers blue/silver - red/silver and he even adjusted the boat speed for us,we had hits by cudas ,lost one then Graham the other guy managed to get one on board about 9lb,to the cheers of the 20 odd folk watching the battle.Later on back to the lagoon for more fun with cubera snapper to a cpl of pounds.
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Day 4 .
Myself,Andrea my partner,Graham and Claire,hired a boat for some deep water fishing,we arrived at the marina 5 minutes away from cayo coco,where the catamaran trips leave from,we wanted to have a crack at sailfish,tuna etc,this cost us 450 peso's,but by splitting the cost then using our credit cards which are then changed to US $ we got a full days boat hire/food loads of beer and rum/coke for £250- £125 per couple(Bargain).
When we arrived our fishing guide on the boat (Jose- double of Sergio Garcia the golfer) told us that with the sea being flat calm we might struggle with the fishing,anyway off we went. bout 5 miles offshore we saw a load of tuna hammering bait fish,steaming for them we trolled 5 baits through-Nothing,by mid morning we were that far off shore we couldn't see land in any direction,we had a strike to the back rod,but nothing came of it,talking amongst ourselves we decided to head inshore and try along the reefs,for snapper cuda,whatever,we just wanted some sport,the fishing guys were brilliant by the way, they worked their arses off ringing the changes with lures,trolling patterns etc,anyhow after lunch when we anchored up by a reef the wind got up a touch so they said we'd give it a cpl of hrs,after some furious sport with cuda, 3 in no time and the girls having a go in the chair,catching their first fish,Jose told us to get ready for a strike, he pointed to a frigate bird that was locked onto something and was right behind our boat,sure enough 2 minutes later i hooked into a dorado of around 10lb,2 more cuda and that was that,not the big stuff we had hoped for but was a brilliant day.
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Day 5.
Back to the rock early morning armed with shrimp,caught small snapper ,then using a live grunt hooked a barracuda of between 20-30lb,was walking it back from the front of the rock to where i could reach it,when it made 3 huge jumps and off it got @@**@@.
rest of day was taken up by friends of ours getting married.I contacted Maria as i really wanted a crack on the flats for bones,she had tried to get in touch with Orlando early in the week but no-one had seen sight nor sound of him,So she put me in touch with Duniesky who came over to the hotel that afternoon for a chat.
Day6.
After spending 25 minutes with Duniesky the previous afternoon discussing bone fishing ,prices etc,we decided on a full day's fishing on the flats,myself and Graham came along,he had never fly fished ,so Duniesky would cast then hand over the rod.
At this point i really feel the need to type my findings of this guy,as i have read all the previous stuff that has been written about him(rightly or wrongly called by other guys - I can only go on my experience with the guy)i found him a likeable guy with enormous enthusiasm for bonefishing,throughout the day he was nothing other than courteous,funny and helpful to us both,exchanging flies and giving me little tips i'd never have thought of.
Back to the day - we went down to the flats at Cayo Romano,through the coastguard checkpoint,a hell of a route march ,then we were there,i was on my 1st bone flat,it was flat calm and bones were tailing all over,this,he told us was where he took clients for the opportunity to catch a big bone,after 3 misses to his fly and a couple to mine,i thought it was going to be hard work but once i got my casting arm back in i felt more confident at the bones i covered,there were some massive fish about,and after studying an area we noticed they were doing a circuit,out on the flat then through some mangroves and around again,he stationed us so i had 1st shot as they came between 2 mangrove bushes,the 10 minute wait was a killer as we could see them bow waving and tailing some 30yds away in amongst the mangroves,anyway a group of 6 bones came through the gap,first cast 2 yds too short so made a peach of a cast right in front,i saw the lead bone take the fly and turn,a strip strkie then all fu@@ing hell broke loose,it made a 20 yd run to the open flat then decided to come back and do 2 full circuits of a mangrove root,Duniesky threw his rod down and dove into the roots untangling my line,all the time the fish was still taking line heading out on the flats(to say i was bricking it was an understatement!)anyhow the guy untangled us and we were back in business,this time it tore off near 200yds of backing as it headed for Havana!,the speed and power was awesome,eventually i got the fish back to us and my first fly caught bone,which we estimated at close on 10lb's was in my hands,we had other chances at big bones but they came off,also a shot at a permit estimated at 20lb,but no joy,he then took us to a second flat in search of permit,cowfish and bones,this was a totally different style of fishing as we were looking for muddied water stirred up by the fish and therefore blind casting, we hooked and landed small bones and lost a nice one,Graham was having problems with strip striking,he couldn't get away from the normal lift the rod set of the hook,which meant he bumped a load of bones but only got a couple of good hook holds,we then had a spell by a small bridge catching garfish to 3ft on fly and shrimp,all in all i had my dream realised of a big fly caught bone,and it was all down to Duniesky,I would not,in my experience with the guy,or Graham's opinion either,have any hesitation going out with him again.

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That pretty much sums up my first fishing trip to Cayo coco,would i go back-well after i have finished this report we are looking at next years hol back again-2 weeks this time:happy2:
I would like to give a big thanks to another guy staying at our hotel- Richard Wood and his mate Steve,Richard your a star mate,your love of the sport and the place made it a joy to be around you and the flies you gave me had the required effect getting me the biggie,we hope to catch up with you again and was lovely meeting yourself, Steve and your good ladies.

All in all this holiday was our dream holiday-and it turned out that way too,we have met some wonderful people,who for quite a lot have been there several times before,everyone is just so nice it's like a little home from home,and we cant wait till we're heading back again.

Billy Boy
05-20-2007, 04:37 PM
Amen - Top report!
I too met Dunieski and found him to be a great guy - either he's changed his ways or the negative reports are a load of BS!!!
Tight Lines
Will

Mark
05-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Maybe he's changed his way because people were asking for the other guides? I notice he taught you the old 'Stretch your arm out as far as you can towards the camera technique' of photography.
Nice pics though. Glad you had a great time,which after all is what we all go to Cuba for.

George07
05-22-2007, 02:18 PM
Amen - Top report!
I too met Dunieski and found him to be a great guy - either he's changed his ways or the negative reports are a load of BS!!!
Tight Lines
Will


"He who has enough to eat does the hungry not believe"

I'd say the guides read the reports and improved. And the fishermen were aware and knew what to expect and what to ask for.

George

P.S. (added afterwards) Sorry, looks like the above quote may be taken for what is not; I was trying to say that those who had a good experience tend not to believe those who had a bad time with some guides.

Peter Perez
05-22-2007, 10:08 PM
So how many hungry cubans got fed with all those fishes?

belen
05-22-2007, 10:12 PM
So how many hungry cubans got fed with all those fishes?

All went to local PCC members, sicko!

saborami
05-22-2007, 11:19 PM
wow, great detail and YES! the fishing guys here are wonderful!

nice photos too.

ignore Perez.

cowie
05-23-2007, 01:58 AM
FYI perez all fish that were caught and with any cuban locals around they were given to them if they wanted them

Peter Perez
05-23-2007, 01:58 PM
FYI perez all fish that were caught and with any cuban locals around they were given to them if they wanted them

I thank you for that, I also do that.
The Cubans are hungry and in need of protein.
Peace.

belen
05-23-2007, 02:35 PM
I thank you for that, I also do that.
The Cubans are hungry and in need of protein.
Peace.

What a focking clown your are Sicko!

Crazyhook
05-29-2007, 10:44 PM
Nice report man, love those pics, congrats on the bones!

waggerlad
06-03-2007, 09:56 AM
Maybe he's changed his way because people were asking for the other guides? I notice he taught you the old 'Stretch your arm out as far as you can towards the camera technique' of photography.
Nice pics though. Glad you had a great time,which after all is what we all go to Cuba for.
hi ya mark
hi mate just got back from cuba, great time will make a report out later, met the man himself dunersky guess what he was reading????
a fist full of reports from this site, he was not to pleased to what he was reading about himself, maybe just maybe he is starting to take his well payed job to heart. also met great friends andfishermen on the pier will get back to you as soon as ive sorted my workmen and jobs out

belen
06-03-2007, 12:19 PM
FYI perez all fish that were caught and with any cuban locals around they were given to them if they wanted them
FYI Persito is not a memba anymore (since he was caught selling beef with this captain from Specializada) ... PCC is not for him at all ... hehe!

Havana Journal
06-03-2007, 09:51 PM
cowie,

What a great report. A real pleasure to read. Unfortunately some people are very inconsiderate of your time but I liked what you wrote and appreciate the photos.

Fish "e" FIsh
06-06-2007, 12:35 PM
Hey everyone I was staying in the Cojimar last year in Cayo Guillermo. I am 19 years old and was on holiday with my girlfriend. I arranged a bone fishing trip with duniesky, as I have dreamt of doing so since I was 8 years old!

As I was on my own fishing, I did find the whole experience very daunting, me been a very typical push over English person trying to be as kind as possible not stepping on anyone’s toes, not knowing if I was been ripped off, basically just going along with the ride. I think it’s fair to say that these guides probably charge a little extra, and you could say are “conning people” but at the end of the day, what a fantastic place, you are fishing for amazing tropical species and it’s a great experience! I feel so lucky, as some people will never experience what I have! + You get people in England conning you all the time, car garages, electricians etc. If you could make some extra money then you would.

I do have to say I did get a little pi@#ed of with duniesky, and was very close to giving him a crack! As this was my first ever time doing this I was expecting some guidance hence the reason I hired a “guide”. When I did something wrong, or couldn’t see this fish, he could be rather rude to me and quite aggressive, any way I took it all on the shoulder and just tried harder which in the end I found I had gained a lot of experience and am now definitely better for it. I didn’t bother using the guide again, I found the sand flats next to the Guillermo bridge and waded out with my flyrod and other bits etc! I had a great day catching plenty of bones, cowfish and snapper. I felt like I had really achieved something, not hiring a guide and his expertise and using my own knowledge and I feel very proud.

The guy obviously loves himself as well, which I found quite funny!

There is so much fishing here its fantastic, behind the melia hotel there is a (river/ stream) thing that’s full of tarpon all willing to take a fly just follow it around and you will find tarpon all the way along. Remember you need to be up for sun rise to catch these fish! They seem to stop feeding at about 10am. I used green bushy flies and black bushy flies that I tied myself, they created a wake in the water and the tarpon just homed in on them!

At the sol just passed the melia, there is a little stream running into and through the hotel, this is full of baby tarpon all about a pound with the odd exception of bigger ones, it flows in from a lagoon at the end of the inlet and is full of bigger tarpon!!!! Great fun on the fly you will have 6 or more attacking your fly, on saying this they are tricky to hit! I also had amazing fun catching these on ultra light spinning gear! Anyone who hasn’t tried this is missing out! Small fast action soft 5ft rod with a tiny reel holding 100 yards of 8lb braid and a tiny plug sends the heart racing, and is ideal for these little scrappers. Anyone needing further information on ultra light tackle just ask away.

The bridge at Guillermo is pretty good, I lost a rod there! I had my back turned and a fish pulled it in lol! (Oh well lesson learned). There are plenty of barracuda here and snapper etc. I fished with a heavy led and used shrimp as bait, the locals use half a piece of fish on a big hook.

The pier at melia is fantastic, but can get crowded! Lots of fun had catching snapper etc.

I have to say a big thank you to my girlfriend though, putting up with me going fishing all the time, she was a star. This year June 30th to be exact, me and my friend are visiting and staying in the sol Cayo hotel purely going to be a fishing holiday, any body there at the same time and want to go fishing, just give us a shout!

As for the tackle I take:

Fly fishing:

Snook / Snapper/ Bonefish: 9 foot rod for 7 - 9wt lines. Saltwater reels with fly line plus 150 - 200 yards of backing 20lb test. WF-Floating lines for use in tropical climates. Knotless tapered leaders 6-9 feet long 8 -12 lbs in strength.

Tarpon: 9 foot fly rods for 9-10 wt lines. Saltwater fly reel with fly line plus 200-300 yards of 20lb backing. WF-Floating lines for use in tropical climates. Knotless tapered leaders 6-9 feet long 12-16 lbs in strength.

From the experience I gained fishing on my own for the bonefish, the retrieve of the fly is as follows.

Most often, I found the best retrieve was to spot the fish cast way ahead of the direction it is swimming in and allow the fly to settle and then make one long strip to grab the bonefish attention. You will know if he has seen it because he will accelerate toward the fly. When this happens, start stripping steadily and as the fish approaches, stop stripping and allow the fly to sink to the bottom I did this to imitate a small fish, shrimp or crab trying to hide. All you do is wait and you should feel a very slight knocking on the end of the rod, if you feel this strike make a long strip-strike, sometimes you don’t feel anything all I did was just repeat the above procedure.

Hope this helps people, could prob write more, but would turn into a book.

waggerlad
06-06-2007, 01:57 PM
hi m8
so you also met the man duneski, ????? but as stated this could be bs!!! but we know what he islike anyway nice report me and mark have also fished the same channels ect better if you explore yourself makes it all worthwhile. must say not all the guides are the same and some of the waiters in the mcg are fantastic also the gardner ismal at the scg he fishes all the area around the scg. tight lines

Fish "e" FIsh
06-07-2007, 07:00 AM
Hey Wagger,

Yep i met the famous guy lol. Ye very worth while just exploring! I was thinking on those lines of talking to locals like in the restaurant and going fishing with them!

I’m really interested in trolling over the reef outside the hotels! How do you go about doing this?

any help would be great!

Cheers

Craig

waggerlad
06-07-2007, 08:32 AM
hi craig
go and see yosmani the buffet waiter he is also in the ranchon he is a great guy, he isin the melia guillermo.
he knows all the local fishermen or ask for flipper, this guy is a dancer, everbody knows him he fishes everday and knows pillar beach like the back of his hand, or if you want to fish the sol cayo guillermo rocks ask for the gardner at the sol called ismal nice guy he took chris fishing at the rocks for nothing all of these guy are great and it cost nothing but hooks.line,ect but i always give them a good tip as the local advice is great all speak good english so no barrier.
the ladsoff the beach with the boats (hobby cats) will take you over the reef for 20 pesos ask yosmani he will talk to them for you might do it cheaper, dave and steve, are still there i will ask them on there return if ive missed anything else theselads have been there 7 times roll on november can,t wait kindest regards

Fish "e" FIsh
06-07-2007, 09:10 AM
Thanks for the info, ill seek out all of these guys, and give you a mention! I have been collecting hooks and line since i booked the holiday in october so i will defo leave it with these guys. 7 times is a hell of alot, bet they want to live there! (i know i would).

Regards

Craig.

waggerlad
06-07-2007, 12:00 PM
hi graig
would love to live there myself would sell up tomorrow and move there but the way these kind people live is not the way we are accustomed to.
ive a lot of good friends in cuba and we try to take a lot of things for them pills ect ect which we take for granted the simple thing we use everday, and think nothing of it but to these people every little bit helps, i will not travel anywhere else in the world now i love cuba and the friendsi meet new and old, everytime we travel. there and yes we do travel into there towns and see the real cuban people and there families kindest regards

billythefish
07-19-2007, 08:25 AM
Re: Duneski fishing guide.

Having read some of the various posts with reference to Duneski, I have been to the Melia CAyo guillermo two years running and used him as my fishing guide. I must say he usually is both comitted and comical, he is always dissappointed if there is no fish caught.

He can get frustrated when you miss a good fish or if you cannot see a fish, but I think that is because he is an expert in his field and very knowldegable.

We went to Cayo Santa Maria to fish just for Tarpon and was lucky enough to catch several large fish. It is a bit of a drive but well worth the trip. I have fished for Tarpon at the rear of the Melia, on my first visit found a 3 metre crocodile waiting near to the shoreline, so take note it is not only fish that live in the waters behind the hotels on Cayo Guillermo.

Fished the pier nearly everyday and hooked into a large Ray from the beach only to be broken off shortly afterwards. I have never really caught anything substantial from the pier at the melia but fishing is fishing in my mind.

Going back in September and looking forward to fishing these fantastic waters again soon. And use Duneski again providing the reports do not continue in the same vain as previously posted.

Many thanks

Billy

Wade
07-19-2007, 12:51 PM
We went to Cayo Santa Maria to fish just for Tarpon and was lucky enough to catch several large fish. It is a bit of a drive but well worth the trip.
Billy

Billy,

Can you tell us more about Cayo Santa Maria? Did you go for more than one day, what did you fish with and who - any info much appreciated!

Wade

billythefish
07-22-2007, 08:55 AM
Hi, Wade,

I have been to Cayo Santa Maria twice, each time with the infamous Duneski. He Hired a car and drove to Cayo Santa Maris from Guillermo, setting off around 0330hrs. Its around a 3/4 hour journey and we did stop a few times to try out some of the hot spots on the way hooked up Tarpon but was broken off each time.

At the marina we were greeted by the local guide who was fantastic, unfortunately I cannot remember his name but he was really good. We used large rapala's and various similar lures to catch the tarpon etc. We did catch a big snapper around 15lb mark and tarpon to nearly 100lb.

The water is alive with Tarpon the aeem to be everywhere but not within casting!!!! Typicallt we would move silently towards them only for the shoal to move to where we had come from!!!

Last year we were fortunate enough to catch 4 good sized tarpon and lost so many more. The water was dead flat and it was so exciting to just be there with such movement of fish all around. The tarpon were feeding well and you could seethe clearly cruising on the surface and clearing the water vertuallt all of the time. I reckon some of the tarpopn must have been over 200lb.

The tackle used was a 30/50lb rod capable of casting a rapala a fair distance, although Duneski reckons I cast like his granny!!! But we did catch each and every tiem we went so my casting cannot be so bad can it?

The line was braid 50lb breaking strain and we used big open faced spinning reels loaded with around 300/400 yds of braid. The boats used were dory type with powerful enginges to get you to the grounds quickly, whilst at the fishing area all that was used was a paddle unless we follwed a distant shoal etc.

I shall be going again later in September, and will definetely going with Duneski again to Santa Maria as well as fishing locally at the Guillermo etc. Last year Duneski told me his company were going to be purchasing a boat to use around the park area but cannot confirm if they have actually bought one yet?

I hope this helps a little bit

Billy

Havana Journal
07-22-2007, 09:13 AM
Have you ever fished out of cojimar where Hemingway used to fish from?

cubafish
07-22-2007, 10:46 AM
Hi, Wade,

At the marina we were greeted by the local guide who was fantastic, unfortunately I cannot remember his name but he was really good. Billy

You likely fished with Samuel, Mayito or Vladimar.

cubafish
07-22-2007, 10:47 AM
Have you ever fished out of cojimar where Hemingway used to fish from?

Unfortunately, the area around and out of Cojimar - like many areas in Cuba, is fished out.

Wade
07-22-2007, 01:42 PM
Good report, Billy. I'm guessing you went there recently, I've heard that June & July are great in those waters.

Thanks for the info,

Wade

billythefish
07-23-2007, 01:46 PM
Hi, Wade

We actually went last year in October and previously in Spetember and be going again this year around the same time of year. From what Duneski told me and the local guide apparently march through to May is supposed to be the very best time to be there.

To be honest I think that may be the case but anytime of the year will produce fish, but perhaps not the "Monsters" Duneski raves about. He says they are around 200-300lb that time of year and also Tarpon to 200lb can be caught from the causeway between Cayo Coco and Cayo Guillermo in March ? Near to the Marina area but how you were to land them I have no ideas it would be an incredible feat to see and would imagine it would be a lifetimes best if you were lucky enough!!

I will be contacting Duneski soon to arrange trips etc so perhaps may have so mre up to date information then.

All the best

Billy