CUBA - THE BILLBOARDS :: OUT NOW!

[hjb]

CUBA - THE BILLBOARDS :: OUT NOW!

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Everyone who has visited Cuba must have seen them: the billboards showing images and slogans that promote the blessings of the Cuban Revolution. They are found all over the country: along the road, on the facades of buildings and at city squares. They really are a unique Cuban phenomenon: where nowadays the rest of the world only seems to be advertising commercial products, Cuba continues to advertise revolutionary ideas and ideals.

Cuba – The Billboards presents one hundred photos of these Cuban billboards and tells the story behind the slogans shown on them. The book is a must for everyone who is interested in Cuba, its revolution and its society. It documents one of the most remarkable stories of the twentieth century and provides a glimpse into an era and an ideology that seems to have been forgotten by modern western world societies.
There is however a revival of this ideology going on in other parts of the world, particularly in Latin America. New leaders like Hugo Chávez (Venezuela) and Evo Morales (Bolivia) see the Cuban Revolution as an important source of inspiration.

Cuba – The Billboards is a book that everyone with basic command of the English language will be able to read and enjoy. Short and easily understandable texts explain the slogans shown on the billboards and provide clear insight into the backgrounds of the Cuban Revolution.

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Harjan Bos (http://www.harjanbos.nl) is a Dutch writer and tour guide. He worked for several years as a tour guide in Cuba. He wrote two travel books about Cuba: ‘Standplaats Havana’ and ‘Kameraad Cuba’ (both in Dutch).

Henk van der Leeden (http://www.henkvanderleeden.com) is a Dutch travel photographer. He works for several international magazines, airlines and travel organisations. Cuba is his most favourite destination. He was one of the first photographers to show the beauty of this island. His work is sold all over Cuba in the form of postcards, posters and calendars.

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>> More info at www.harjanbos.nl (http://www.harjanbos.nl)

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[Fantasia]

Do we get a discount if we know you?

[hjb]

Do we get a discount if we know you?
Si, como no?

[vanguard]

Where I live… billboard advertising is costly. Occasionally, you will have a missing child or most wanted, but Clear Channel and Bacardi pave our South Florida highways.


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[hjb]

Where I live… billboard advertising is costly. Occasionally, you will have a missing child or most wanted, but Clear Channel and Bacardi pave our South Florida highways.


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You might consider moving to LA....

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>> http://www.freethefive.org/updates/Solidarity/SLBillboardUnveiling020208.htm

[Angelking]

You might consider moving to LA....

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>> http://www.freethefive.org/updates/Solidarity/SLBillboardUnveiling020208.htm


How are they unjustly held if they were convicted in a court of law?

AK

[radar]

How are they unjustly held if they were convicted in a court of law?

AK

Did you type the above with a straight face?:tongue3:

[Angelking]

Did you type the above with a straight face?:tongue3:

If someone (or 5) are charged and convicted in a court of law, and sentenced to prison, how are they being unjustly held?

Obviously you are only capable of making a remark, and you have no thoughts on the question......thanks for your contribution.


AK

[radar]

If someone (or 5) are charged and convicted in a court of law, and sentenced to prison, how are they being unjustly held?

Obviously you are only capable of making a remark, and you have no thoughts on the question......thanks for your contribution.


AK

What would you like me to do ... post pictures of billboards?

Come on AK you seem like an intelligent person.
Do you believe that someone put on trial convicted in the USA is justly held?
Do you believe this applies to other countries including Cuba?

I thought not. Many of you believe the USA can do no wrong.

There you have my contribution.:smartass2

[Angelking]

[quote=radar;164324]What would you like me to do ... post pictures of billboards?


I don't know how that is relevant to the question, other than evading it.


Come on AK you seem like an intelligent person.


And I am


Do you believe that someone put on trial convicted in the USA is justly held?


uuhhh...well yes, of course. If a person is sentenced from the result of a trial and then put in prison, then yes, they are justly held.

I don't see your point, are you saying noone in prison is justly held? Are you saying everyone in prison should be released, are you saying the American court system is flawed and noone should be convicted? I have no idea what your point is.

I think you do that on purpose so as not to commit yourself to a stance. You know, the cowards way out.


Do you believe this applies to other countries including Cuba?


Each country has their own justice system. If someone is convicted, in another country, then that is the way it is. If you are referring to the jounalist beig held in Cuba, I have no doubt they are guilty for their crimes. The problem I have with that, is, speaking freely should not be a crime. I don't know how else to answer that.

And before you say, they were just protecting their homeland, why did the one from the Navy base have military information on his computer he was sending back to Cuba. Obviously, it was not just about spying on exile groups.


I thought not.

Are you asking me the question, or are you answering for me? I answered above.


Many of you believe the USA can do no wrong.


And many of you think the U.S. can do know right, but that doesn't answer the question


There you have my contribution.:smartass2


What contribution?

AK

[hjb]

How are they unjustly held if they were convicted in a court of law?

AK
There is no justice to be found in your socalled courts of law. They are just a bunch of corrupt bandidos.

[Angelking]

There is no justice to be found in your socalled courts of law. They are just a bunch of corrupt bandidos.


LMAO..........coming from you, not surprising.

I have a feeling if it was a case you agreed with, you wouldn't be saying what you did.

So what was corrupt about this trial? Were you there?

What made it corrupt?

If you are talking about our entire justice system, what parts of it are corrupt and why do you think it?


AK

[hjb]

LMAO..........coming from you, not surprising.

I have a feeling if it was a case you agreed with, you wouldn't be saying what you did.

So what was corrupt about this trial? Were you there?

What made it corrupt?

If you are talking about our entire justice system, what parts of it are corrupt and why do you think it?


AK
What makes it corrupt is the fact that terrorist Luis Posada Carriles is walking around freely today in Miami and that at the same time five innocent Cubans that did nothing else than to defend their country against more terrorist acts from guys like this Posada Carriles faced life long sentences. Absolutely no justice there.

One more time the acts of terror of Posada Carriles::

The bombing of a Cuban airliner in 1976: 73 people died including the Cuban national fencing team.
The bombing of several Havana hotels in 1997: one Italian tourist died.
An assassination plot to kill Castro in 2000 when the Cuban leader visited Panama. Posada Carriles was convicted and jailed, but was granted a pardon in 2004 by outgoing Panamanian president Mireya Moscoso, a close ally to the Bush administration.Now you name me the acts of terror of these five Cuban men that will justify their life long sentences.

[Fantasia]

I don't think it was a fair trial for the Cuban 5. And if there were really justice, Posada Carilles wouldn't walking freely around the streets of Miami now, would he?

Bush has a double standard regarding terrorists depending on if you are his friend or if he owes your friends for his election.

[radar]

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[Angelking]

What makes it corrupt is the fact that terrorist Luis Posada Carriles is walking around freely today in Miami and that at the same time five innocent Cubans that did nothing else than to defend their country against more terrorist acts from guys like this Posada Carriles faced life long sentences. Absolutely no justice there.

One more time the acts of terror of Posada Carriles::

The bombing of a Cuban airliner in 1976: 73 people died including the Cuban national fencing team.
The bombing of several Havana hotels in 1997: one Italian tourist died.
An assassination plot to kill Castro in 2000 when the Cuban leader visited Panama. Posada Carriles was convicted and jailed, but was granted a pardon in 2004 by outgoing Panamanian president Mireya Moscoso, a close ally to the Bush administration.Now you name me the acts of terror of these five Cuban men that will justify their life long sentences.


If you have evidence that will put away Posada Carillas, I am sure the authorities, would be glad to look at it.

In the meantime, in the U.S. you are innocent until proven guilty.

If you don't like, too damn bad.


AK

[Angelking]

I don't think it was a fair trial for the Cuban 5. And if there were really justice, Posada Carilles wouldn't walking freely around the streets of Miami now, would he?

Bush has a double standard regarding terrorists depending on if you are his friend or if he owes your friends for his election.

How do you know, were you in the trial to make that determination?

Were you privy to all the evidence? Were you in the jury room making that decision?

So how do you know it was not a fair trial?


AK

[mellisas]

How do you know, were you in the trial to make that determination?

Were you privy to all the evidence? Were you in the jury room making that decision?

So how do you know it was not a fair trial?


AK

AK '''How do YOU know, were you in the trial to make that determination?

Were you privy to all the evidence? Were you in the jury room making that decision?

So how do YOU know if it was a fair trial?'''http://www.cubamania.com/cuba/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Angelking]

AK '''How do YOU know, were you in the trial to make that determination?

Were you privy to all the evidence? Were you in the jury room making that decision?

So how do YOU know if it was a fair trial?''':rolleyes:

I don't, but I believe in our justice system. I also believe someone is innocent until proven guilty. I don't believe anyone is crooked until proven guilty.

Saying it was not a fair trial just because you didn't like the outcome, doesn't mean it wasn't a fair trial.

I would like to hear her reasons for thinking it was not a fair trial. Just thinking it, doesn't make it so.

Do I think our system is perfect? No of course not, no system is. But I believe it is the best system there is.

See, I don't go through life thinking doom and gloom. I don't have an inherent distrust of everything and everyone. What a horrible way to live.

AK

[Fantasia]

I can't remember all the details and don't care enough to go look them up, but weren't they granted an appeal and didn't that appeal go against them but only by one vote (out of 7) so 3 judges agreed it was unfair while 4 said it was "fair." Well imho 4 out of 7 doesn't really make it "fair" as long as 3 learned men/women say otherwise.

To tell the truth, I don't think they were very smart because they got caught. But.... ever a believer in conspiracy theories, like the embargo, their being caught has worked more in favor of Cuba than in favor of the US.

[Angelking]

I can't remember all the details and don't care enough to go look them up, but weren't they granted an appeal and didn't that appeal go against them but only by one vote (out of 7) so 3 judges agreed it was unfair while 4 said it was "fair." Well imho 4 out of 7 doesn't really make it "fair" as long as 3 learned men/women say otherwise.

To tell the truth, I don't think they were very smart because they got caught. But.... ever a believer in conspiracy theories, like the embargo, their being caught has worked more in favor of Cuba than in favor of the US.

You see, sometimes you don't always know what you think you know.


On June 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001), they were convicted of all 26 counts by a U.S. federal court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_courts) in Miami and in December sentenced to varying terms in maximum-security prison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-security_prison): two consecutive life terms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment) for Hernández, life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment) for Guerrero and Labañino, 19 years for Fernando Gonzáles, and 15 years for René Gonzáles.
On August 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_9), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005), a three-judge appellate panel of the 11th circuit court of appeals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Eleventh_Ci rcuit) in Atlanta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta) overturned the convictions and sentences of the Cuban Five and ordered a new trial saying that the Cuban exile community in Miami and the trial publicity made the trial unfavorable and prejudicial to the defendants.
[1] (http://www.nowaroncuba.org/Documentation/Cuban_5/Reuters/newsArticle.html) In November 2005 this ruling for a new trial was reversed by the full panel of 11th circuit court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_court_of_appeals)[2] (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/13056994.htm) . As of now the original convictions are reinstated. A rehearing is pending in the 11th United States circuit court of appeals.



AK

[Fantasia]

You see, sometimes you don't always know what you think you know.




AK

Well, I usually do :grin3: I'll just shut up now and stick with the theory that they were meant to be caught to elicit international sympathy.

[radar]

I took this photo in'06.
The billboard makers are going to be busy with the coming new administration.

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[hjb]

Read this (http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/posada.htm) and you know why Posada Carriles is protected by the Bush government.

[radar]

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[Angelking]

Read this (http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/posada.htm) and you know why Posada Carriles is protected by the Bush government.

Another conspiracy theorist website. I give that as much weight as your 9/11 conspiracy sites. In other words....none.

AK

[vanguard]

To tell the truth, I don't think they were very smart because they got caught.

They didn’t get caught…

How America Determines Friends and Foes (http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20040314.htm)
Noam Chomsky

Every self-respecting president has a doctrine attached to his name. The core principle of the Bush II doctrine is that the United States must "rid the world of evil," as the president said right after 9/11.

A special responsibility is to wage war against terrorism, with the corollary that any state that harbours terrorists is a terrorist state and should be treated accordingly.

Let's ask a fair and simple question: What would the consequences be if we were to take the Bush doctrine seriously, and treat states that harbour terrorists as terrorist states, subject to bombardment and invasion?

The United States has long been a sanctuary to a rogues' gallery of people whose actions qualify them as terrorists, and whose presence compromises and complicates U.S. proclaimed principles.

Consider the Cuban Five, Cuban nationals convicted in Miami in 2001 as part of a spy ring.

To understand the case, which has prompted international protests, we have to look at the sordid history of U.S.-Cuba relations (leaving aside here the issue of the crushing, decades-long U.S. embargo).

The United States has engaged in large- and small-scale terrorist attacks against Cuba since 1959, including the Bay of Pigs invasion and the bizarre plots to kill Castro. Direct U.S. participation in the attacks ended during the late '70s — at least officially.

In 1989, the first president Bush granted a pardon to Orlando Bosch, one of the most notorious anti-Castro terrorists, accused of masterminding the bombing of a Cuban airliner in 1976. Bush overruled the Justice Department, which had refused an asylum request from Bosch, concluding: "The security of this nation is affected by its ability to urge credible other nations to refuse aid and shelter to terrorists, whose target we too often become."

Recognizing that the United States was going to harbour anti-Castro terrorists, Cuban agents infiltrated those networks. In 1998, high-level FBI officials were sent to Havana, where they were given thousands of pages of documentation and hundreds of hours of videotape about terrorist actions organized by cells in Florida.

The FBI reacted by arresting the people who provided the information, including a group now known as the Cuban Five.

The arrests were followed by what amounted to a show trial in Miami. The Five were sentenced, three to life sentences (for espionage; and the leader, Gerardo Hernandez, also for conspiracy to murder), after convictions that are now being appealed.

Meanwhile, people regarded by the FBI and Justice Department as dangerous terrorists live happily in the United States and continue to plot and implement crimes.

The list of terrorists-in-residence in the United States also includes Emmanuel Constant from Haiti, known as Toto, a former paramilitary leader from the Duvalier era. Constant is the founder of the FRAPH (Front for Advancement of Progress in Haiti), the paramilitary group that carried out most of the state terror in the early 1990s under the military junta that overthrew president Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

At last report, Constant was living in Queens, N.Y.

The United States has refused Haiti's request for extradition. The reason, it is generally assumed, is that Constant might reveal ties between Washington and the military junta that killed 4,000 to 5,000 Haitians, with Constant's paramilitary forces playing the leading role.

The gangsters leading the current coup in Haiti include FRAPH leaders.

For the United States, Cuba has long been the primary concern in the hemisphere. A declassified 1964 State Department document declares Fidel Castro to be an intolerable threat because he "represents a successful defiance of the United States, a negation of our whole hemispheric policy of almost a century and a half," since the Monroe Doctrine declared that no challenge to U.S. dominance would be tolerated in the hemisphere.

Venezuela now presents a similar problem. A recent lead article in the Wall Street Journal says, "Fidel Castro has found a key benefactor and heir apparent to the cause of derailing the U.S.'s agenda in Latin America: Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez."

As it happens, last month, Venezuela asked the United States to extradite two former military officers who are seeking asylum in the United States. The two had taken part in a military coup supported by the Bush administration, which backed down in the face of outrage throughout the hemisphere.

The Venezuelan government, remarkably, observed a ruling of the Venezuelan supreme court barring prosecution of the coup leaders. The two officers were later implicated in a terrorist bombing, and fled to Miami.

Outrage over defiance is deeply ingrained in U.S. history. Thomas Jefferson bitterly condemned France for its "attitude of defiance" in holding New Orleans, which he coveted. Jefferson warned that France's "character (is) placed in a point of eternal friction with our character, which though loving peace and the pursuit of wealth, is high-minded."

France's "defiance (requires us to) marry ourselves to the British fleet and nation," Jefferson advised, reversing his earlier attitudes, which reflected France's crucial contribution to the liberation of the colonies from British rule.

Thanks to Haiti's liberation struggle of 1804, unaided and almost universally opposed, France's defiance soon ended. But, then as now, the guiding principles of American outrage over defiance remain in place, determining friend and foe.

[Angelking]

From Norm Chomsky



Shocker


Why don't you move to Cuba Vanguard? You seem to have nothing good to say about the U.S, and nothing but praise for Cuba and the Communist system.

Something along the lines of...do as I say, not as I do perhaps?

[sherry5851]

From Norm Chomsky



Shocker


Why don't you move to Cuba Vanguard? You seem to have nothing good to say about the U.S, and nothing but praise for Cuba and the Communist system.

Something along the lines of...do as I say, not as I do perhaps?
The man's name is Noam Chomsky and is well-respected around the world. Again, free speech allows for vanguard's views to be aired and tolerated in a free society.

[vanguard]

Shocker




I agree… these are shocking events.

“In 1989, the first president Bush granted a pardon to Orlando Bosch, one of the most notorious anti-Castro terrorists, accused of masterminding the bombing of a Cuban airliner in 1976. Bush overruled the Justice Department, which had refused an asylum request from Bosch”

” In 1998, high-level FBI officials were sent to Havana, where they were given thousands of pages of documentation and hundreds of hours of videotape about terrorist actions organized by cells in Florida.”

“The FBI reacted by arresting the people who provided the information, including a group now known as the Cuban Five.”

“The arrests were followed by what amounted to a show trial in Miami. The Five were sentenced, three to life sentences (for espionage; and the leader, Gerardo Hernandez, also for conspiracy to murder), after convictions that are now being appealed.”

[kubabound]

In 1998, high-level FBI officials were sent to Havana, where they were given thousands of pages of documentation and hundreds of hours of videotape about terrorist actions organized by cells in Florida.”[/COLOR]

“The FBI reacted by arresting the people who provided the information, including a group now known as the Cuban Five.”


For you CA's that can't read.. this means there was amassed a cache of Information that connected the FBI, the CIA, and the We Hate The Castro's Industry to the same acts of Fundraising...
on the backs of the American Taxpayer

thanks Vangaurd.

john

[hjb]

Oops, forgot to mention the price of the book: 29.95 euro. Hope the Americans can still afford that, now that the dollar is going down ... :D

[Meph]

Propaganda Billboards? Thanks, but I'll pass.

[deelcarajo]

When the "red avispa" (name given by the cuban authorities to the cubans spies working in the USA) where arrested, consisted of SEVENTEEN MEMBERS, twelve of them choose not to go to trial, they plead GUILTY and for that reason got lesser sentences than the famous FIVE, made famous by the cuban propaganda, they were spying against USA, among their "duties" was to observe the movementst of planes in Boca Chica air base in the florida keys, look for places along the cost to introduce arms and people to USA, there are more than 20,000 PAGES in this case, not all of them released yet.
Thanks to the information gathered by the FBI, in the "red avispa" case,the USA gov was able to errest Ana Belen Montes, the highest ranking member of the pentagon ever arerrested spaying against the USA.
What all this got to do with cubans in miami?
This "muela" about the Five and their work against the terrorism of the cuban mafia of miami is nothing but the creation of a very sick mind, is just PROPAGAND, of some body with lots of money, who own lots of news papers, tv stations, radio stations, exactly the same mind who turned Che Guevara from a known murdered to a very famous hero.

[grichf]

When the "red avispa" (name given by the cuban authorities to the cubans spies working in the USA) where arrested, consisted of SEVENTEEN MEMBERS, twelve of them choose not to go to trial, they plead GUILTY and for that reason got lesser sentences than the famous FIVE, made famous by the cuban propaganda, they were spying against USA, among their "duties" was to observe the movementst of planes in Boca Chica air base in the florida keys, look for places along the cost to introduce arms and people to USA, there are more than 20,000 PAGES in this case, not all of them released yet.
Thanks to the information gathered by the FBI, in the "red avispa" case,the USA gov was able to errest Ana Belen Montes, the highest ranking member of the pentagon ever arerrested spaying against the USA.
What all this got to do with cubans in miami?
This "muela" about the Five and their work against the terrorism of the cuban mafia of miami is nothing but the creation of a very sick mind, is just PROPAGAND, of some body with lots of money, who own lots of news papers, tv stations, radio stations, exactly the same mind who turned Che Guevara from a known murdered to a very famous hero.

The other side of the story.
People forget that there are 2 sides to the story, not just Fidel's side. Maybe they don't want to hear it.

[helado de chocolate]

If anyone is looking for ideas for a Christmas :xmas: gift for me, I'd like this book. I don't mind if it's late arriving :juggle: